Where
and when were you born? - I was born in Woolwich in
South East London roughly a year before my first birthday.
Where do you live now? -In North London,
which for a South London boy is not ideal. People from
outside of London don’t know that there is a north/south
divide within the city. As soon as I emerge on the south
side of the Blackwall Tunnel, I genuinely do get a feeling
of relief.
What is your favourite part of the Country?
- Kent. No question. Because Woolwich is more or less on the
Kent border (and if I’m not mistaken used to be part of
Kent) I always looked at it as “my county”. Having said
that, Shropshire comes a close second.
How did you get into radio? - I can’t
remember exactly how old I was but one evening I wasn’t very
well and my mum suggested I went to bed early, my brother
lent me his radio and as he left the room he said “I’ve
tuned it into a station which broadcasts from a ship ……..”
My young imagination went into overdrive, I had visions of
all the groups being ferried out to this luxury liner to
sing a song and then get ferried back …….. That was the very
first time that radio got into my brain, I loved it and it
wasn’t long before I begged y mum to buy me a cassette
recorder. I recorded songs from the radio, then recorded me
speaking, then another song until I built up my own little
“show”. When I was 13 my other brother (not the one with the
radio) spotted an advert in the local paper asking for
volunteers at the local hospital radio station. It was there
that I met Cliff Osbourne and it wasn’t long before we were
running South Thames Radio on fm, broadcasting to the whole
of Winn’s Common and possibly even one or two of the nearby
houses! From there we both joined the big London pirate
London Music Radio and it was there that I became friends
with a guy who went out to the Mi Amigo a few times to do
some work on the generators. He passed on my tape, which got
rejected but it introduced me to the lady who was running
things on land and after another couple of tries I
eventually got taken on.
When did you first join Caroline? - My
first programme was August 14th 1978 but I’d been hanging
around passing over tapes for a month or so before.
What are your earliest memories of Caroline?
- As a listener it would be those “heady” days of 1974, off
the Dutch coast. Hearing those fantastic voices; Andy
Archer, Johnny Jason, Tony Allan …. All of them sounding
like they were having the best time ever. I had of course
heard of Caroline because of my fascination with radio, but
I thought they had closed in the 60’s. It was by pure chance
that I bought Record Mirror and found they had a big section
on radio, and through that I found out that the station was
still on. Fantastic days, great images in my mind of these
people floating around playing great records that nobody
else played.
What changes have you seen with the organisation
since you joined?- I was lucky enough to sample the
very end of the ”good times” whilst we were at sea. Although
some of the older hands, even then, were telling me that it
wasn’t quite the same. When I first joined the ship didn’t
have a Captain, but we had a skipper and a proper crew man,
although it didn’t last. Once that famous winter of ’78 hit,
we stayed off the air for six months and life was very VERY
hard. I have a diary from those days and reading it now
makes me wonder how the hell we survived. I stayed with the
station through those dark days and spent much that time
aboard. The organisation, just like the ship, was hanging on
… just. To be fair, once we got back on the air in ’79 it
started to show signs of positive change but then came the
sinking. I wasn’t involved during the Ross Revenge days so I
can’t comment on those years. Nowadays, it is completely
different because we operate in a completely different way.
I have to say that in many ways it was easier when we were
at sea, although we can at least just plug into a 13 amp
constant mains supply.
How much music freedom do you have on Caroline?
- I am very lucky, I have absolute freedom on my programme.
As the programme name would suggest, it all comes from my
album collection. Having said that I have total freedom, you
should bear in mind that I have been learning my craft for
36 years now and earning a living from broadcasting for 31
of those years, so whilst I have complete freedom to choose,
I am always mindful that I am choosing for a radio
programme.
What other radio stations have you been involved
with? - I am very proud of my time with a community
set up which Cliff and I put together in 1980 called
Greenwich Sound. I spent a lot of time at BRMB in
Birmingham, I left and came back so many times I can’t
remember! Beacon was great fun. The list is something like
BRMB, Beacon, Buzz fm (a Black Music station, I did mid
mornings there), Signal, XTRA, Fosseway and of course I was
Programme Manager at WABC in Wolverhampton and Shrewsbury,
Millennium (which was interesting!!) and KMfm. I think
that’s it ………
What's your favourite station other than Caroline?
- Probably Talk Sport or Five Live. I very rarely listen to
any music stations because they just drive me up the wall,
occasionally I will force myself to listen for professional
reasons. There’s a really good smooth jazz station in
America which I listen to on my internet radios and a great
oldies station in Australia. When I’m not actually in a
studio I am working in my office and I MUST have music so I
always put something on. Recently I have discovered hours
and hours of Radio Noordzee, the Dutch service from the
early 1970’s. I’d never listened to that station, even back
then. What a fantastic station, it knocked spots off
Veronica.
Who is the most famous person that you have met?
– When I was working in commercial radio I met loads of
famous people and I spent a long time in the Midlands which
is a very creative place, there were always actors at the
theatres or at Central TV, Pebble Mill (as it was then) and
plenty of music venues so there were always famous people
around. For some of the time I was the “Rock Jock” so the
big rock acts would call in for a chat and a coffee. I
remember one day interviewing the late Stuart Adamson of Big
Country, before the interview I settled him down and went
off to get him a hot chocolate from the vending machine. As
I passed his drink to him the bottom of the cup fell out and
the steaming hot chocolate landed in his ……… shall we say
“lap”, not a great start to an interview but he was good as
gold! The two which stick in my mind are Keith Richards and
Mary Hopkin. The amazing thing about the Keith interview was
that I got paid to travel first class to London, go to his
hotel room and chat to him for half an hour!! What a great
bloke too. Mary Hopkin was my first “love” so when I was the
programme boss at WABC in the midlands and one of the DJ’s
had her coming in for an interview, I couldn’t help but
mention it to him. Later that day I was sitting in my office
when there was a knock at the door and in walked Jim saying
“this is him ………” I looked up to see Mary Hopkin smiling at
me as she said “I understand I was your first love?” As the
young people would say “Oh My God!!” – well, they probably
wouldn’t say it they’d just text “OMG!”
Who do you particularly remember in your offshore
days?- Oh, so many characters, to answer this
question properly would take up all of the remaining
magazine space ….. people who made the whole experience so
special, all of them so very different to each other, people
like Marc Jacobs from the Dutch side and Ad Roberts were
always good for a laugh, the mad cook Kees Borrell, Tom
Anderson was good to be onboard with, Tony Allan of course
…….. life was never bland when he was aboard! I remember
them all and have great memories of everybody I worked with.
I suppose the guys who spent time out there during our 6
months off the air have a special place in my heart, those
were very tough days with no food, water or electricity for
large periods. I have a diary from that time which everybody
onboard contributed to and there are some very sad comments
in there, you know for a long time we had no contact with
land and a couple of diary entries are about our very real
fears that the organisation on land had collapsed. The
situation was very bleak and in such situations it brings
you closer together. I remember the three people Gerard van
Dam put on just before Christmas 1978, they were under the
impression that they would be broadcasting their radio
station by Christmas, of course it never happened and it
ended up with one of them (who had become my girlfriend)
getting quite ill. She needed 24 hour monitoring and Chicago
(who was in charge) decided that if a tender didn’t arrive
the next day then he would call a lifeboat, by pure chance a
tender DID arrive and the three of us went off. Marie-Louise
came and stayed at my mum’s house and the next day we heard
the news that the ship had been abandoned. That was the
famous occasion when we went out to see what could be done
with the ship, when we got there she was unlit and listing
heavily, obviously with a lot of water in there. As we got
closer Chicago just leapt over and stayed aboard,
single-handedly saving the ship.
Who influenced you the most? - Tony Allan.
The perfect broadcaster, equally at home playing The Osmonds
or Emerson Lake & Palmer. Able to really communicate with
his listeners. The amazing thing is how young he was when he
was doing all this stuff. When he started at Radio Scotland
he was 16 or 17 and yet when you listen to the recordings he
sounds like a proper grown up. For any anorak reading this,
get out recordings of Tony on air on the 1st of September
1974 just as the Dutch Marine Offences Act came in …. He was
24 years old!! How many 24 year olds today would have a)
that voice and b) that skill to communicate so effectively.
He taught me a lot, both by listening to him and from
working with him.
What is the best and worst thing about radio today?
- The best thing is my internet radios. With them I can
listen to practically everything from all over the world.
The worst thing is that as far as music radio is concerned,
most of it either sounds the same or it sounds worse.
What's the most embarrassing or funny thing that's
happened to you? - I imagine you are speaking about
radio related incidents? When I was at WABC one winter,
possibly 1991 or thereabouts, it snowed heavily and very
soon it became clear that the weather was going to affect
normal life in the West Midlands and Shropshire. I lived
just around the corner from the radio station so I went in
to take over from the guy who was on air and he went off to
battle through the weather and get home to his family. As
the night went on the weather got worse and public transport
stopped, cars couldn’t get anywhere and we slowly started
taking more and more calls on the air trying to give as much
information as we could. One elderly woman phoned up asking
about a particular problem she had as a direct result of the
heavy snow, I said on the air, “No problem, just call the
council’s special number it’s …..” whatever the number was
and she said “No I can’t write it down ……”. “Course you can,
just jam the phone between your shoulder and your ear, hold
the pen with one hand and the paper with the other and write
it down ….” I said. “No Bob, I can’t do it” “Don’t be silly,
everyone can write a number down……” “Well I can’t”. I was
aware that she sounded very paniced and so I was trying to
be a bit jokey/matey by now, with more than a hint of
sarcasm I said “And what makes you so special?” “I ain’t got
any arms.”
What do you do for your day job and relaxation?
- I’m a voice over artist most of the time which means, in
simple terms, that people pay me to speak words into some
sort of recording machine and those words then end up as a
commercial, or a training DVD, conference presentation or
some other promotional tool. I still have my own production
company too. For relaxation? Err, that’s a hard one ………..
What's your favourite food? - In the UK
it’s my own chilli or my chicken stew but there are a couple
of Steak Houses in Amsterdam which serve the best steak in
the world. I spend a lot of time in France and for a country
with a reputation for fantastic food I am ALWAYS
disappointed and I’ve NEVER had a decent steak in France and
we’re only a little better in this country. But I would have
to say that I would walk to Amsterdam for a steak. I miss
frinkendel too from Holland, when I was living there I loved
those little machines where you put a couple of cents in,
open the drawer and there’s a frinkendel!! Every time I go
to Holland I MUST have one …… or two ………
What do you dislike doing the most? - Being
a grown up.
Who would you like to get stuck with on a desert Island?-
The bloke who cooks the steak in one of those Steak Houses
in Amsterdam …. Mind you, where would we get the meat from?
What's the most important thing that you learnt
about radio?- It only works if the people making the
programmes realise that it is a companion to the listener. I
had a Programme Controller many years ago who taught me two
very important things: 1) Never have sex with a listener and
2) Always leave the listener wanting more. Although if you
do disobey rule 1 you should make sure rule 2 doesn’t apply.
What was the first record you bought?- T.
Rex, Telegram Sam and yes I still have it. The strange thing
is that I can’t remember my first album ……. My first CD was
Layla though.
What are your favourite bands and who is your hero? -
This is such a hard question. My collection is pretty big
and, obviously, I love it all. I go through phases which are
linked to my mood but I suppose the people I keep coming
back to are Brian Wilson/Beach Boys, Steely Dan and Dusty
Springfield. I have always had huge respect for Dave
Edmunds, what a talent but as the much missed Roger Scott
once said, you should never meet your heroes because one day
they’ll let you down.
What are your 5 most iconic tunes? - I
hate that word! I’m not really sure what an iconic tune is
but I would guess that something like The Who’s Won’t Get
Fooled Again is iconic and if it is, then that’s my number
one. The other four, in no order? Marvin Gaye, “What’s Going
On”, Pink Floyd any of “Dark Side Of The Moon”, Beach Boys
“California Saga” (all of it) and Bruce Springsteen “Born To
Run”.
When did you last go on board the Ross Revenge?
- August 2009 for our Now That’s What I Call Radio Caroline
broadcast.
How do you see the future of Caroline and its ship?- It’s
strange to think of a time without Caroline, those years
without the station seem so long ago now. It’s a constant
struggle when you don’t rely on tax payers money or
advertising and so far, touch wood, the Highgate Hippy has
done a fantastic job in juggling the pennies and keeping the
creditors happy. I will do everything I can to help him and
all we can do is hope we get through it. The Ross is even
more complicated because of its sheer size, there are very
places which will have her and those that will should have
easy access for listeners and good security, like the
station itself, Ross is lucky to have a dedicated team to
look after her.
What plans have you for the future? - To
grab a cheese sandwich, after that ………. Who knows?
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